{"id":1875,"date":"2025-05-09T09:52:51","date_gmt":"2025-05-09T12:52:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pecorari-cloudbr722.pecoraricloud.com.br\/~nathalie\/?p=1875"},"modified":"2025-07-03T20:25:36","modified_gmt":"2025-07-03T18:25:36","slug":"horient-ring","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/nathalie.art\/es\/horient-ring\/","title":{"rendered":"Anillo HOriente"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"1875\" class=\"elementor elementor-1875\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e431ae8 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"e431ae8\" data-element_type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-285639c elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"285639c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u00bfHOrient Ring?<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3dde3b6 elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"3dde3b6\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f7fd435 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"f7fd435\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Seg\u00fan usted, \u00bfd\u00f3nde empieza y d\u00f3nde acaba Oriente?<\/p><p>Selon vous, o\u00f9 l'Orient commence-t-il, o\u00f9 finit-il ?<\/p><p>Su deseo: \u00bfhacia d\u00f3nde se dirige Oriente y cu\u00e1l es su fin?<\/p><p>\u00bfSeg\u00fan usted, d\u00f3nde empieza el Oriente, d\u00f3nde se acaba?<\/p><p>Segondo voi, dove comincia l'Oriente, dove finisce?<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-96de69e elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"96de69e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-52cf834 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"52cf834\" data-element_type=\"container\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-41404bc e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"41404bc\" data-element_type=\"container\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-43281ac e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" 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id=\"eael-testimonial-f01a694\" class=\"eael-testimonial-item clearfix  content-top-icon-title-inline\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-content eael-testimonial-inline-bio\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"bio-text\"><p class=\"eael-testimonial-user\">alpHa,<\/p><p class=\"eael-testimonial-user-company\">21 de marzo<\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-content\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-text\"><p>Oriente comienza,<br \/>cuando contemplo la puesta de sol, tumbado en una playa desierta o en la cima de una monta\u00f1a pintada de rosas de nieve, desde el amanecer que se acerca...<\/p><p>Cuando contemplo el amanecer, el final es s\u00f3lo mi pr\u00f3xima puesta de sol.<br \/>Y cada ma\u00f1ana tenemos nuestro renacimiento Y cada noche .. alpHaM<\/p><\/div>\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t<span class=\"eael-testimonial-quote\"><\/span>\n\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-cfa231f elementor-widget elementor-widget-eael-testimonial\" data-id=\"cfa231f\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"eael-testimonial.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t<div id=\"eael-testimonial-cfa231f\" class=\"eael-testimonial-item clearfix  content-top-icon-title-inline\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-content eael-testimonial-inline-bio\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"bio-text\"><p class=\"eael-testimonial-user\">SV,<\/p><p class=\"eael-testimonial-user-company\">Marzo, 16<\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-content\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-text\"><p>Querida Natalie, realmente disfruto de tus encuestas -) muy inusual... como todo el<br \/>persona que los inventa:-)<\/p><p>\u00bfD\u00f3nde est\u00e1 el Orient......?<br \/>Habiendo \"disfrutado\" del sistema escolar alem\u00e1n y siendo tratado con lat\u00edn durante muchos a\u00f1os... seguro que tengo que responderte que \"oriens\" significa \"este\" o usado como verbo \"levantarse\".<\/p><p>As\u00ed que visto globalmente con el punto de vista kopernicano yo responder\u00eda \"en todas partes\".<\/p><p>Es -como casi todo- un punto de vista.<\/p><p>\u00bfD\u00f3nde est\u00e1 este en una pelota?<\/p><p>Por donde sale el sol<\/p><p>\"Oriental\" siempre se utiliz\u00f3 como adjetivo de \"lo desconocido\", \"lo extra\u00f1o\", \"lo lejano\", \"lo m\u00edstico\".<\/p><p>Estando ahora, aqu\u00ed, en el \"viejo\" oriente, me imagino que, por ejemplo, el<br \/>\"orientales\"- los alemanes me resultan m\u00e1s \"extra\u00f1os\" que los tailandeses.<\/p><p>\u00bfEmpieza Oriente en Alemania? Supongo que depende de la \u00e9poca y de cada persona, y obtendr\u00e1 respuestas muy diferentes.<\/p><p>No... estoy seguro de que no quer\u00edas un enfoque filos\u00f3fico de este tema.... lo siento. Tal vez sea interesante preguntar qui\u00e9n se hace llamar \"oriental\"<\/p><p>Los asian countmes shill do in nowadavs.<\/p><p>Pero para nosotros, los europeos\/americanos, el significado geogr\u00e1fico inicial era sin duda todo lo que hab\u00eda entre Egipto y China. Con los a\u00f1os, el l\u00edmite oriental de este vago t\u00e9rmino se acerc\u00f3 m\u00e1s a \"nosotros\". Supongo que ahora nuestras connotaciones se refieren m\u00e1s al \"mundo musulm\u00e1n\" que est\u00e1 m\u00e1s cerca de nosotros.... como \"Oriente Pr\u00f3ximo\" o \"Oriente Medio\". Pero quiz\u00e1 s\u00f3lo quer\u00edas saber qu\u00e9 significa para m\u00ed la palabra Oriente.... Para m\u00ed, Oriente est\u00e1 relacionado emocionalmente con \"1001 noches\" y \"Alibaba\".<br \/>Pienso en mi casa de t\u00e9 chino en el jard\u00edn de \"Sans Souci\".<\/p><p>As\u00ed que concluyendo con tu pregunta: La palabra oriente para m\u00ed ya no es un t\u00e9rmino geogr\u00e1fico... para m\u00ed es un tiempo de localizaci\u00f3n.<\/p><p>Para m\u00ed, Oriente se sit\u00faa entre los siglos XVIII y XIX.<\/p><\/div>\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t<span class=\"eael-testimonial-quote\"><\/span>\n\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d9e858b elementor-widget elementor-widget-eael-testimonial\" data-id=\"d9e858b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"eael-testimonial.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t<div id=\"eael-testimonial-d9e858b\" class=\"eael-testimonial-item clearfix  content-top-icon-title-inline\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-content eael-testimonial-inline-bio\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"bio-text\"><p class=\"eael-testimonial-user\">Dorio Lucich, amigo de NatHalie Braun Barends (Petsir\u00e9),<\/p><p class=\"eael-testimonial-user-company\">12 de diciembre<\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-content\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-text\"><p>Oriente comienza para m\u00ed cada vez que me siento desorientado en un nuevo lugar, pueblo, ciudad o situaci\u00f3n. Sentirme desorientado me recuerda la artificialidad de las distinciones - Oriente - Occidente, Occidente - Oriente.<\/p><p>Y todav\u00eda no he estado nunca en Asia, salvo en Turqu\u00eda. Me ha gustado jugar con la frontera geogr\u00e1fica aceptada entre Occidente y Oriente, pero la distinci\u00f3n me ha parecido poco cre\u00edble.<\/p><p>Para m\u00ed, Oriente empieza en Estambul y termina en Jap\u00f3n. (Mirando desde Europa o Norteam\u00e9rica - si miras desde la costa oeste de Norteam\u00e9rica, Oriente empieza en el horizonte y acaba en Estambul - \u00a1pobre Hawai!).<\/p><\/div>\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t<span class=\"eael-testimonial-quote\"><\/span>\n\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f92c176 elementor-widget elementor-widget-eael-testimonial\" data-id=\"f92c176\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"eael-testimonial.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t<div id=\"eael-testimonial-f92c176\" class=\"eael-testimonial-item clearfix  content-top-icon-title-inline\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-content eael-testimonial-inline-bio\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"bio-text\"><p class=\"eael-testimonial-user\">Claire de S\u00e9l\u00e8ne,<\/p><p class=\"eael-testimonial-user-company\">22 de noviembre<\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-content\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-text\"><p>Para m\u00ed, Oriente empieza en la antigua Constantinopla y termina en Pondichery.<\/p><\/div>\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t<span class=\"eael-testimonial-quote\"><\/span>\n\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5f19e10 elementor-widget elementor-widget-eael-testimonial\" data-id=\"5f19e10\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"eael-testimonial.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t<div id=\"eael-testimonial-5f19e10\" class=\"eael-testimonial-item clearfix  content-top-icon-title-inline\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-content eael-testimonial-inline-bio\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"bio-text\"><p class=\"eael-testimonial-user\">Nattalie Braun Barends,<\/p><p class=\"eael-testimonial-user-company\">septiembre, 01<\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-content\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-text\"><p>Bienvenido al H Orient Ring<\/p><\/div>\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t<span class=\"eael-testimonial-quote\"><\/span>\n\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00bfHOrient Ring? 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