{"id":1875,"date":"2025-05-09T09:52:51","date_gmt":"2025-05-09T12:52:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pecorari-cloudbr722.pecoraricloud.com.br\/~nathalie\/?p=1875"},"modified":"2025-07-03T20:25:36","modified_gmt":"2025-07-03T18:25:36","slug":"horient-ring","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/nathalie.art\/fr\/horient-ring\/","title":{"rendered":"Anneau HOrient"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"1875\" class=\"elementor elementor-1875\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e431ae8 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"e431ae8\" data-element_type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-285639c elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"285639c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u00bfHOrient Ring ?<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3dde3b6 elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"3dde3b6\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f7fd435 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"f7fd435\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Selon vous, o\u00f9 commence et o\u00f9 finit l'Orient ?<\/p><p>Selon vous, o\u00f9 l'Orient commence-t-il, o\u00f9 finit-il ?<\/p><p>Votre but : o\u00f9 va l'Orient, o\u00f9 est-il \u00e0 la fin ?<\/p><p>\u00bfSeg\u00fan usted, d\u00f3nde empieza el Oriente, d\u00f3nde se acaba ?<\/p><p>En second lieu, o\u00f9 commence l'Orient, o\u00f9 se termine-t-il ?<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-96de69e elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"96de69e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-52cf834 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"52cf834\" data-element_type=\"container\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-41404bc e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"41404bc\" data-element_type=\"container\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-43281ac e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"43281ac\" data-element_type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ce1280b elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"ce1280b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Envoyez votre message ici pour poster votre r\u00e9ponse <span style=\"color: #52c622;\"><a style=\"color: #52c622;\" href=\"mailto:H@nathalie.art\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">par courrier \u00e9lectronique<\/a><\/span><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-774fd7f e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"774fd7f\" data-element_type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-504f13d elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-button-align-stretch elementor-widget elementor-widget-form\" data-id=\"504f13d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" 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class=\"eael-testimonial-item clearfix  content-top-icon-title-inline\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-content eael-testimonial-inline-bio\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"bio-text\"><p class=\"eael-testimonial-user\">alpHa,<\/p><p class=\"eael-testimonial-user-company\">21 mars<\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-content\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-text\"><p>L'Orient commence,<br \/>lorsque je regarde le coucher de soleil, allong\u00e9 sur une plage d\u00e9serte ou au sommet d'une montagne peinte en rose de neige, de l'aube naissante...<\/p><p>Lorsque je regarde le soleil se lever \u00e0 l'aube, la fin n'est que mon prochain coucher de soleil.<br \/>Et chaque matin, nous renaissons Et chaque nuit... alpHaM<\/p><\/div>\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t<span class=\"eael-testimonial-quote\"><\/span>\n\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-cfa231f elementor-widget elementor-widget-eael-testimonial\" data-id=\"cfa231f\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"eael-testimonial.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t<div id=\"eael-testimonial-cfa231f\" class=\"eael-testimonial-item clearfix  content-top-icon-title-inline\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-content eael-testimonial-inline-bio\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"bio-text\"><p class=\"eael-testimonial-user\">SV,<\/p><p class=\"eael-testimonial-user-company\">mars, 16<\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-content\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-text\"><p>Ch\u00e8re Natalie, j'aime beaucoup vos sondages -) tr\u00e8s inhabituels... comme l'ensemble de l'article...<br \/>la personne qui les invente :-)<\/p><p>O\u00f9 est l'Orient...... ???<br \/>Bien qu'ayant \"profit\u00e9\" du syst\u00e8me scolaire allemand et ayant \u00e9t\u00e9 trait\u00e9 en latin pendant de nombreuses ann\u00e9es... je dois vous r\u00e9pondre que \"oriens\" signifie \"est\" ou utilis\u00e9 comme verbe \"s'\u00e9lever\".<\/p><p>Donc, globalement, vu sous l'angle de la vision kopernicienne, je r\u00e9pondrais \"partout\".<\/p><p>Il s'agit - comme presque tout - d'un point de vue.<\/p><p>O\u00f9 se trouve l'est sur un ballon ?<\/p><p>L\u00e0 o\u00f9 le soleil se l\u00e8ve !<\/p><p>Le terme \"oriental\" a toujours \u00e9t\u00e9 utilis\u00e9 comme adjectif pour d\u00e9signer \"l'inconnu\", \"l'\u00e9trange\", \"le lointain\", \"le mystique\".<\/p><p>\u00c9tant maintenant, ici, dans le \"vieil\" orient, je me dis que, par exemple, les<br \/>\"Les Allemands me sont plus \u00e9trangers que les Tha\u00eflandais.<\/p><p>L'Orient commence-t-il en Allemagne ? Je pense que cela d\u00e9pend de l'\u00e9poque et de l'individu et que vous obtiendrez des r\u00e9ponses tr\u00e8s diff\u00e9rentes.<\/p><p>Non... Je suis s\u00fbr que vous ne vouliez pas d'une approche philosophique de ce sujet.... d\u00e9sol\u00e9. Il serait peut-\u00eatre int\u00e9ressant de se demander qui se dit \"oriental\"<\/p><p>Les comt\u00e9s asiatiques font de l'ombre \u00e0 Nowadavs.<\/p><p>Mais pour nous, les Europ\u00e9ens\/Am\u00e9ricains, la signification g\u00e9ographique initiale \u00e9tait certainement tout ce qui se trouvait entre l'\u00c9gypte et la Chine. Avec les ann\u00e9es, la fronti\u00e8re orientale de ce terme vague s'est rapproch\u00e9e de nous. Je suppose que nos connotations actuelles concernent davantage le \"monde musulman\" qui est plus proche de nous.... comme les pays du \"Proche-Orient\" ou du \"Moyen-Orient\". Mais peut-\u00eatre vouliez-vous simplement savoir ce que le mot \"Orient\" signifie pour moi.... D'un point de vue \u00e9motionnel, l'Orient est li\u00e9 aux \"1001 nuits\" et \u00e0 \"Alibaba\".<br \/>Je pense \u00e0 ma maison de th\u00e9 chinoise dans le jardin de \"Sans Souci\".<\/p><p>Pour conclure sur votre question, je dirai que le mot \"orientation\" n'est plus pour moi un terme g\u00e9ographique : Le mot orientation pour moi n'est plus un terme g\u00e9ographique... pour moi c'est un temps de localisation.<\/p><p>Pour moi, l'Orient se situe aux XVIIIe et XIXe si\u00e8cles.<\/p><\/div>\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t<span class=\"eael-testimonial-quote\"><\/span>\n\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d9e858b elementor-widget elementor-widget-eael-testimonial\" data-id=\"d9e858b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"eael-testimonial.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t<div id=\"eael-testimonial-d9e858b\" class=\"eael-testimonial-item clearfix  content-top-icon-title-inline\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-content eael-testimonial-inline-bio\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"bio-text\"><p class=\"eael-testimonial-user\">Dorio Lucich, un ami de NatHalie Braun Barends (Petsir\u00e9),<\/p><p class=\"eael-testimonial-user-company\">12 d\u00e9cembre<\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-content\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-text\"><p>L'Orient commence pour moi chaque fois que je me sens mal \u00e0 l'aise dans un nouveau lieu, une nouvelle ville ou une nouvelle situation. Le sentiment de d\u00e9sorientation me rappelle l'artificialit\u00e9 des distinctions - Est - Ouest, Occident - Orient.<\/p><p>Et je n'ai encore jamais \u00e9t\u00e9 en Asie, \u00e0 l'exception de la Turquie. J'ai aim\u00e9 jouer sur la fronti\u00e8re g\u00e9ographique accept\u00e9e entre l'Occident et l'Orient, mais j'ai trouv\u00e9 que la distinction n'\u00e9tait pas tr\u00e8s cr\u00e9dible.<\/p><p>Ainsi, pour moi, l'Orient commence \u00e0 Istanbul et se termine au Japon. (Si vous regardez depuis l'Europe ou l'Am\u00e9rique du Nord - si vous regardez depuis la c\u00f4te ouest de l'Am\u00e9rique du Nord, l'Orient commence \u00e0 l'horizon et se termine \u00e0 Istanbul - pauvre Hawa\u00ef !)<\/p><\/div>\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t<span class=\"eael-testimonial-quote\"><\/span>\n\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f92c176 elementor-widget elementor-widget-eael-testimonial\" data-id=\"f92c176\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"eael-testimonial.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t<div id=\"eael-testimonial-f92c176\" class=\"eael-testimonial-item clearfix  content-top-icon-title-inline\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-content eael-testimonial-inline-bio\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"bio-text\"><p class=\"eael-testimonial-user\">Claire de S\u00e9l\u00e8ne,<\/p><p class=\"eael-testimonial-user-company\">22 novembre<\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-content\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-text\"><p>Pour moi, l'Orient commence dans l'ancienne Constantinople et se termine \u00e0 Pondich\u00e9ry.<\/p><\/div>\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t<span class=\"eael-testimonial-quote\"><\/span>\n\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5f19e10 elementor-widget elementor-widget-eael-testimonial\" data-id=\"5f19e10\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"eael-testimonial.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t<div id=\"eael-testimonial-5f19e10\" class=\"eael-testimonial-item clearfix  content-top-icon-title-inline\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-content eael-testimonial-inline-bio\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"bio-text\"><p class=\"eael-testimonial-user\">Nattalie Braun Barends,<\/p><p class=\"eael-testimonial-user-company\">Septembre 01<\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-content\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"eael-testimonial-text\"><p>Bienvenue \u00e0 l'Anneau d'Orient H<\/p><\/div>\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t<span class=\"eael-testimonial-quote\"><\/span>\n\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00bfHOrient Ring? 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